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TheChicosAStar
03-08-2009, 01:26 AM
I've seen a couple threads were people are having trouble with ctrs (including me) and I thought it would be a good idea to put it into all one thread.


I'll Start

When ever I create this ctr Rct3 crashes. Here is the BahnDaten


// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// 'CTR_BahnDaten' fuer CustomTrackedRides (CTR) im Spiel RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 (RCT3)
// zur Verwendung mit der Software 'CTR_Creator' von Markus Lomberg
// Datei erstellt mit CTR_Creator Version 0.65 (21.Oktober 2008)
// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RideName CorkscrewRCName
RideDescription SwanBoatsTRDescription
RideIcon SwanBoatsIcon
RideCategory 3
CarTypeName CTR_Vehicle
TrackType Track3
TrackSectionName Vertical2steepslope invvertical2steepslopechain invverticalchain invstraight2steepslope invsteepslope2straight 45invmedslope 45invmedslope2steepslope 45invmedslope2straight 45invmedslope2straightchain 45invmedslope2tiltleft 45invmedslope2tiltright 45invmedslopechain 45invmedslopeloosecurveleft 45invmedslopeloosecurveright 45invsteepslope 45invsteepslope2medslope 45invstraight 45invstraight2medslope 45invstraight2medslopechain 45invstraight2tiltleft 45invstraight2tiltright 45invstraightchain 45invtilt 45invtiltleft2medslope 45invtiltright2medslope 45medslope 45medslope2steepslope 45medslope2straight 45medslope2straightchain 45medslope2tiltleft 45medslope2tiltright 45medslopechain 45medslopeloosecurveleft 45medslopeloosecurveright 45steepslope 45steepslope2medslope 45straight 45straight2medslope 45straight2medslopechain 45straight2tiltleft 45straight2tiltright 45straightchain 45tilt 45tiltleft2medslope 45tiltright2medslope Corkscrewleft Corkscrewright Figure8loopleft Figure8loopright Halfloop Helixlargeupleft Helixlargeupright Helixsmallupleft Helixsmallupright Inlinetwistleft Inlinetwistright Invcorkscrewleft Invcorkscrewright Invhalfloop Invhelixlargeupleft Invhelixlargeupright Invhelixsmallupleft Invhelixsmallupright Invlargecorkscrewleft Invlargecorkscrewright Invlargeoverbankedturnleft Invlargeoverbankedturnright Invloopleft Invloopright Invloosecurveleft Invloosecurveright Invmedcurve Invmedslope Invmedslope2medslopetiltleft Invmedslope2medslopetiltright Invmedslope2steepslope Invmedslope2steepslopechain Invmedslope2straight Invmedslope2straightchain Invmedslope2straighttiltleft Invmedslope2straighttiltright Invmedslopechain Invmedslopeloosecurveleft Invmedslopeloosecurveright Invmedslopemedcurveleft Invmedslopemedcurveright Invmedslopetightcurveleft Invmedslopetightcurveright Invmedslopetiltleft Invmedslopetiltleft2medslope Invmedslopetiltleft2straight Invmedslopetiltleft2straighttiltleft Invmedslopetiltright Invmedslopetiltright2medslope Invmedslopetiltright2straight Invmedslopetiltright2straighttiltright Invphotosection Invquarterhelixleft Invquarterhelixright Invsbendleft Invsbendright Invsmalloverbankedturnleft Invsmalloverbankedturnright Invstationmiddle Invsteepslope Invsteepslope2medslope Invsteepslope2medslopechain Invsteepslope2vertical Invsteepslopechain Invsteepslopemedcurveleft Invsteepslopemedcurveright Invsteepslopetightcurveleft Invsteepslopetightcurveright Invsteepslopezerogrollleft Invsteepslopezerogrollright Invstraight Invstraight2medslope Invstraight2medslopechain Invstraight2medslopetiltleft Invstraight2medslopetiltright Invstraight2tiltleft Invstraight2tiltright Invstraightblockbrakes Invstraightbrakes Invstraightchain Invstraighttiltleft2medslopetiltleft Invstraighttiltright2medslopetiltright Invtightcurve Invtilt Invtiltedloosecurveleft Invtiltedloosecurveright Invtiltedmedcurve Invtiltedmedslopemedcurveleft Invtiltedmedslopemedcurveright Invtiltedmedslopetightcurveleft Invtiltedmedslopetightcurveright Invtiltedtightcurve Invtiltleft2medslope Invtiltright2medslope Invvertical Invvertical2steepslope Largecorkscrewleft Largecorkscrewright Largeoverbankedturnleft Largeoverbankedturnright Loopleft Loopright Loosecurveleft Loosecurveright Medcurve Medslope Medslope2medslopetiltleft Medslope2medslopetiltright Medslope2steepslope Medslope2steepslopechain Medslope2straight Medslope2straightchain Medslope2straighttiltleft Medslope2straighttiltright Medslopechain Medslopeloosecurveleft Medslopeloosecurveright Medslopemedcurveleft Medslopemedcurveright Medslopetightcurveleft Medslopetightcurveright Medslopetiltleft Medslopetiltleft2medslope Medslopetiltleft2straight Medslopetiltleft2straighttiltleft Medslopetiltright Medslopetiltright2medslope Medslopetiltright2straight Medslopetiltright2straighttiltright Photosection Sbendleft Sbendright Smalloverbankedturnleft Smalloverbankedturnright Stationmiddle Steepslope Steepslope2medslope Steepslope2medslopechain Steepslope2straight Steepslope2vertical Steepslopechain Steepslopemedcurveleft Steepslopemedcurveright Steepslopetightcurveleft Steepslopetightcurveright Steepslopezerogrollleft Steepslopezerogrollright Straight Straight2medslope Straight2medslopechain Straight2medslopetiltleft Straight2medslopetiltright Straight2steepslope Straight2tiltleft Straight2tiltright Straightblockbrakes Straightbrakes Straightchain Straighttiltleft2medslopetiltleft Straighttiltright2medslopetiltright Tightcurve Tilt Tiltedloosecurveleft Tiltedloosecurveright Tiltedmedcurve Tiltedmedslopemedcurveleft Tiltedmedslopemedcurveright Tiltedmedslopetightcurveleft Tiltedmedslopetightcurveright Tiltedtightcurve Tiltleft2medslope Tiltright2medslope Vertical
TrackSectionCosts

Vodhin
03-08-2009, 04:33 AM
no track section costts. click the write ctr bahndaten button to auto fix you text file.

Belgabor
03-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Do you actually have a train installed that is called "CTR_Vehicle"?

Old-Spice
03-08-2009, 04:07 PM
If it crashed as soon as you place the track piece, you didnt set the correct car to go with your track. I had this issue, and discovered that i had not put the correct name or my car, it crashed.

And I also have a problem, as you see from the pic below, there are 2 jeeps, and i just want 1 and only set it as one... any ideas?

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg369/Old-Spice-08/Shot0067-1.jpg

Txt files: Download (http://startdownload.filefront.com/13432879//be6e1327de95dc3f8706ec67003ef3d56e1ad263aac49bec3473a348e621fafd97a6d62451a96644//)

TheChicosAStar
03-08-2009, 04:10 PM
Actually, it crashes after I go to connect the last piece to the station.

^My does that to sometimes. I redid the effect points and it worked fine.`I still don't know what exactly causes that though.

benboid12
03-08-2009, 04:16 PM
i've got a problem too.
ive written the basics, clicked Write ctr bahndaten, clicked write ctr ovls and clicked import. but the game stil crashes?!
EDIT: problem solved

TheChicosAStar
03-08-2009, 04:18 PM
^yes, and the station is upside down (inverted) and when i click the un-inverted the station is gone and its a straight piece.

azanderz
03-08-2009, 04:50 PM
If it crashed as soon as you place the track piece, you didnt set the correct car to go with your track. I had this issue, and discovered that i had not put the correct name or my car, it crashed.

And I also have a problem, as you see from the pic below, there are 2 jeeps, and i just want 1 and only set it as one... any ideas?

Txt files: Download (http://startdownload.filefront.com/13432879//be6e1327de95dc3f8706ec67003ef3d56e1ad263aac49bec3473a348e621fafd97a6d62451a96644//)

lol never seen that. my bet would be wrong bones. i guess you havent putted 2 jeeps in your modeller.
EDIT: looking through the .txt files i found no mistakes.

Vicarious
03-08-2009, 05:58 PM
I d/l the griffon cars, put all of the files in the correct places, and when i try to use it, an error saying something about unresolved track error or something pops up, any help?

Vodhin
03-08-2009, 06:06 PM
If it crashed as soon as you place the track piece, you didnt set the correct car to go with your track. I had this issue, and discovered that i had not put the correct name or my car, it crashed.

And I also have a problem, as you see from the pic below, there are 2 jeeps, and i just want 1 and only set it as one... any ideas?

I am having the same issues- it started when I moved the carfront and carrear bones on my Hannibal 8 models. Since I'm am testing a fix to the importer I haven't been able to re-import the models correctly (not unless I re-build the models differently or belgabor gets time to investigate the new issues- and I can wait, as I have no time this month for serious modeling).

My guessfor what happened to me is that I moved the Hannibal 8's car front bone to a point that was inside the bounding box of the model (I was attempting to have that car's front wheels align with other models in my set- the nose of the Hannibal 8 sticks out very far).

Check where your carfront/carrear bones are and make sure that they are outside of the model...

Looking at my Chitty model, I'm thinking that it might be in relation to other bones, too- Chitty's carfront bone is definitely inside the model but both carfront and carrear bones are the outtermost bones of any kind- so it might be that the Hannibal 8 's forward light effect or rear smoke screen effect bones (which are both a child of a body bone) are outside of the carfront/carrear bones...


Again, I can't check right now (without doing a whole lot of work) so let me know if you have a similar model/bone set up and if so, wether or not my suggestion does the trick...



I d/l the griffon cars, put all of the files in the correct places, and when i try to use it, an error saying something about unresolved track error or something pops up, any help?

you do not have the correct track sections listed for the track type selected.

Vicarious
03-08-2009, 06:14 PM
Thanks Vodhin, should i just re download the set or what should i do?

TheChicosAStar
03-16-2009, 08:23 PM
Here is my problem. Link to video:
http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp83/ChicosAStar/?action=view&current=Problem.flv

Vodhin
03-16-2009, 08:56 PM
too small to read the text in the error box. just typoe it in your post here and tell us what you are doing when the error happens... Also post your text files used for your ctr.

TheChicosAStar
03-16-2009, 09:17 PM
Error:
RCT3 Has Stopped Working
Windows is checking for a solution
WagenDaten
// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// 'CTR_WagenDaten' fuer CustomTrackedRides (CTR) im Spiel RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 (RCT3)
// zur Verwendung mit der Software 'CTR_Creator' von Markus Lomberg
// Datei erstellt mit CTR_Creator Version 0.65 (21.Oktober 2008)
// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


TrainName Toilet
CarCountPerTrainMin 1
CarCountPerTrainMax 1
CarCountPerTrainPreset 1

// -------------------------------------

FrontCar_ModelNamePartA Toilet_Car
FrontCar_InertiaPartA 400
FrontCar_PeepSeatingPosition 1 BahnDaten

// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// 'CTR_BahnDaten' fuer CustomTrackedRides (CTR) im Spiel RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 (RCT3)
// zur Verwendung mit der Software 'CTR_Creator' von Markus Lomberg
// Datei erstellt mit CTR_Creator Version 0.65 (21.Oktober 2008)
// -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RideName CorkscrewRCName
RideDescription CorkscrewRCDescription
RideIcon RapidsIcon

RideCategory 3

CarTypeName CTR_Toilet
TrackType Track3
TrackSectionName invsteepslope2verticalchain invvertical2steepslopechain invverticalchain invstraight2steepslope invsteepslope2straight 45invmedslope 45invmedslope2steepslope 45invmedslope2straight 45invmedslope2straightchain 45invmedslope2tiltleft 45invmedslope2tiltright 45invmedslopechain 45invmedslopeloosecurveleft 45invmedslopeloosecurveright 45invsteepslope 45invsteepslope2medslope 45invstraight 45invstraight2medslope 45invstraight2medslopechain 45invstraight2tiltleft 45invstraight2tiltright 45invstraightchain 45invtilt 45invtiltleft2medslope 45invtiltright2medslope 45medslope 45medslope2steepslope 45medslope2straight 45medslope2straightchain 45medslope2tiltleft 45medslope2tiltright 45medslopechain 45medslopeloosecurveleft 45medslopeloosecurveright 45steepslope 45steepslope2medslope 45straight 45straight2medslope 45straight2medslopechain 45straight2tiltleft 45straight2tiltright 45straightchain 45tilt 45tiltleft2medslope 45tiltright2medslope Corkscrewleft Corkscrewright Figure8loopleft Figure8loopright Halfloop Helixlargeupleft Helixlargeupright Helixsmallupleft Helixsmallupright Inlinetwistleft Inlinetwistright Invcorkscrewleft Invcorkscrewright Invhalfloop Invhelixlargeupleft Invhelixlargeupright Invhelixsmallupleft Invhelixsmallupright Invlargecorkscrewleft Invlargecorkscrewright Invlargeoverbankedturnleft Invlargeoverbankedturnright Invloopleft Invloopright Invloosecurveleft Invloosecurveright Invmedcurve Invmedslope Invmedslope2medslopetiltleft Invmedslope2medslopetiltright Invmedslope2steepslope Invmedslope2steepslopechain Invmedslope2straight Invmedslope2straightchain Invmedslope2straighttiltleft Invmedslope2straighttiltright Invmedslopechain Invmedslopeloosecurveleft Invmedslopeloosecurveright Invmedslopemedcurveleft Invmedslopemedcurveright Invmedslopetightcurveleft Invmedslopetightcurveright Invmedslopetiltleft Invmedslopetiltleft2medslope Invmedslopetiltleft2straight Invmedslopetiltleft2straighttiltleft Invmedslopetiltright Invmedslopetiltright2medslope Invmedslopetiltright2straight Invmedslopetiltright2straighttiltright Invphotosection Invquarterhelixleft Invquarterhelixright Invsbendleft Invsbendright Invsmalloverbankedturnleft Invsmalloverbankedturnright Invstationmiddle Invsteepslope Invsteepslope2medslope Invsteepslope2medslopechain Invsteepslope2vertical Invsteepslopechain Invsteepslopemedcurveleft Invsteepslopemedcurveright Invsteepslopetightcurveleft Invsteepslopetightcurveright Invsteepslopezerogrollleft Invsteepslopezerogrollright Invstraight Invstraight2medslope Invstraight2medslopechain Invstraight2medslopetiltleft Invstraight2medslopetiltright Invstraight2tiltleft Invstraight2tiltright Invstraightblockbrakes Invstraightbrakes Invstraightchain Invstraighttiltleft2medslopetiltleft Invstraighttiltright2medslopetiltright Invtightcurve Invtilt Invtiltedloosecurveleft Invtiltedloosecurveright Invtiltedmedcurve Invtiltedmedslopemedcurveleft Invtiltedmedslopemedcurveright Invtiltedmedslopetightcurveleft Invtiltedmedslopetightcurveright Invtiltedtightcurve Invtiltleft2medslope Invtiltright2medslope Invvertical Invvertical2steepslope Largecorkscrewleft Largecorkscrewright Largeoverbankedturnleft Largeoverbankedturnright Loopleft Loopright Loosecurveleft Loosecurveright Medcurve Medslope Medslope2medslopetiltleft Medslope2medslopetiltright Medslope2steepslope Medslope2steepslopechain Medslope2straight Medslope2straightchain Medslope2straighttiltleft Medslope2straighttiltright Medslopechain Medslopeloosecurveleft Medslopeloosecurveright Medslopemedcurveleft Medslopemedcurveright Medslopetightcurveleft Medslopetightcurveright Medslopetiltleft Medslopetiltleft2medslope Medslopetiltleft2straight Medslopetiltleft2straighttiltleft Medslopetiltright Medslopetiltright2medslope Medslopetiltright2straight Medslopetiltright2straighttiltright Photosection Sbendleft Sbendright Smalloverbankedturnleft Smalloverbankedturnright Stationmiddle Steepslope Steepslope2medslope Steepslope2medslopechain Steepslope2straight Steepslope2vertical Steepslopechain Steepslopemedcurveleft Steepslopemedcurveright Steepslopetightcurveleft Steepslopetightcurveright Steepslopezerogrollleft Steepslopezerogrollright Straight Straight2medslope Straight2medslopechain Straight2medslopetiltleft Straight2medslopetiltright Straight2steepslope Straight2tiltleft Straight2tiltright Straightblockbrakes Straightbrakes Straightchain Straighttiltleft2medslopetiltleft Straighttiltright2medslopetiltright Tightcurve Tilt Tiltedloosecurveleft Tiltedloosecurveright Tiltedmedcurve Tiltedmedslopemedcurveleft Tiltedmedslopemedcurveright Tiltedmedslopetightcurveleft Tiltedmedslopetightcurveright Tiltedtightcurve Tiltleft2medslope Tiltright2medslope Vertical Vertical2steepslope
TrackSectionCosts
TrackSectionCosts
CostsHeight4H

StationType Standard
HeightMax

StartPreset
StartOptions
NoChildrenFlag
LightRedGreenFlag
FullLoadFlag
BlockSectionFlag
CircuitsMin
CircuitsMax
AutocompleteFlag
CarRotationFlag
NoCircuitsFlag

InOutOfStationRollSpeed
LiftchainSpeedMin
LiftchainSpeedMax
LiftchainSpeedPreset
StartSpeedMin
StartSpeedMax
StartSpeedPreset
ConstantSpeedFlag
ConstantSpeedMin
ConstantSpeedMax
ConstantSpeedPreset
HillVariation

RideCostsPreview
RunningCostsBase
RunningCostsPerTrain
RunningCostsPerCar
RunningCostsPerStation

ExcBase
IntBase
NauBase
ExcCircuitCount
IntCircuitCount
NauCircuitCount
ExcCarCount
IntCarCount
NauCarCount
ExcRideTime
IntRideTime
NauRideTime
ExcSceneryMax
IntSceneryMax
NauSceneryMax
ExcMaximumSpeed
IntMaximumSpeed
NauMaximumSpeed
ExcAverageSpeed
IntAverageSpeed
NauAverageSpeed
ExcRideLength
IntRideLength
NauRideLength
ExcSceneryInfluence
IntSceneryInfluence
NauSceneryInfluence
ExcAverageHorizGForce
IntAverageHorizGForce
NauAverageHorizGForce
ExcAverageVertGForce
IntAverageVertGForce
NauAverageVertGForce

ReliabilityDecrease
PeepAttractivity
DistanceSpeedUnit Thats it

Vodhin
03-16-2009, 09:28 PM
the waggon datten file looks like you haven't clicked the "write wagondaten" button to add any missing data. Same for the BahnDaten file...

You have the model OVLs fresh from the importer in the same folder as the CTR creator? You have first set up the new car (Wagondaten buttons: read/write/create/install) and then done the same for the track (Bahndaten buttons: read/write/create/install)?

TheChicosAStar
03-16-2009, 09:39 PM
Followed that and still nothing. Thanks for helping though. Also do you know why the station is set as inverted for default?

azanderz
03-17-2009, 03:16 AM
^yes, and the station is upside down (inverted) and when i click the un-inverted the station is gone and its a straight piece.

thats an easy one. you just place the straight piece and then you click the station icon :).

Belgabor
03-17-2009, 06:06 AM
Followed that and still nothing. Thanks for helping though. Also do you know why the station is set as inverted for default?

This is just how RCT3 works. If you have a normal and an inverted station track in your list, RCT3 always shows the inverted one by default. There's nothing you can do about that if you want to have both available.

Vodhin
03-17-2009, 11:13 AM
This is just how RCT3 works. If you have a normal and an inverted station track in your list, RCT3 always shows the inverted one by default. There's nothing you can do about that if you want to have both available.


the dreaded "sort alphabetically" way RCT3 reads info, coupled with Frontier's lack of propper naming schemes ("InvertedStation... ...Station" instead of "Station1... ...Station2Inverted")