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Mennoo_
04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
Hello CTR-cars experst
I'm working at the moment on a vekoma MineTrain CTR.I though that I know how must I make animations for a CTR. I though the same thing as CFR, but that isn't. How must I do this

I would like to make connections between 2 carts, the same connections as by DasMatze's IntaminWoodenCar. How must you this? Is the connection a second LOD-object?http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3547/shot0556f.png

And I will make too a front car. But the cars after the frontcar. is that the Second-, Middle-, Penultimate- or Rear-Car

Please DasMatze of anybody help me

ElectricEyeball
04-01-2009, 04:35 PM
^Sorry to say, but I know nothing about animation, modeling, or any other of that stuff. But I must say that this is a beautiful CTR, and it will be very useful.

TycoonCoaster
04-02-2009, 06:30 AM
Yes, you can make your connection as another 3d object and all you need is to insert two new bones into the model and they are linkfront and linkrear. Just like the picture below:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii12/TycoonCoaster/CTR.jpg

Is that clear?

and you have to save and insert your connection as another model and insert the name after the keyword "LinkCar_ModelNamePartA" in your WagenDaten.txt

Mennoo_
04-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Yes, you can make your connection as another 3d object and all you need is to insert two new bones into the model and they are linkfront and linkrear. Just like the picture below:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii12/TycoonCoaster/CTR.jpg

Is that clear?

and you have to save and insert your connection as another model and insert the name after the keyword "LinkCar_ModelNamePartA" in your WagenDaten.txt
Thank you very much. but how must I do now the animations?

azanderz
04-02-2009, 03:06 PM
you can do th animations in blender.

Dasmatzes Intamin wooden doesnt have any link car, does it ? :)

Frontcar is the front car if thats a special model.
Secondcar is the second car of the coaster, if that is also a special model.
Middle car is all the middle cars.
penultimate is the second rear car if that has a special model.
Rearcar is the rear car if it's a special model.

Mennoo_
04-02-2009, 03:59 PM
you can do th animations in blender.

Dasmatzes Intamin wooden doesnt have any link car, does it ? :)

Frontcar is the front car if thats a special model.
Secondcar is the second car of the coaster, if that is also a special model.
Middle car is all the middle cars.
penultimate is the second rear car if that has a special model.
Rearcar is the rear car if it's a special model.
I know that. I have made the animations as the same mode as that you do with CFR's. But that won't work :(

Vodhin
04-02-2009, 04:53 PM
I know that. I have made the animations as the same mode as that you do with CFR's. But that won't work :(

Actually, yes, it is very similar. At the moment, though you can only make restraint and door animations and instead of thinking of start-up, loop, and stop, you think of ride start, ride end, and idle. You create animation segments for the restraints or doors closing (for the AnimationNoRestraintsStart), for opening (for the AnimationNoRestraintsEnd) and one for the position of the restraints when the train is sitting idle in the station (for AnimationNoRestraintsIdle). In the wagondatten text file, number the sequences as 0, 1, 2 based on the order of the animation segment order in the OVL.

Mennoo_
04-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Actually, yes, it is very similar. At the moment, though you can only make restraint and door animations and instead of thinking of start-up, loop, and stop, you think of ride start, ride end, and idle. You create animation segments for the restraints or doors closing (for the AnimationNoRestraintsStart), for opening (for the AnimationNoRestraintsEnd) and one for the position of the restraints when the train is sitting idle in the station (for AnimationNoRestraintsIdle). In the wagondatten text file, number the sequences as 0, 1, 2 based on the order of the animation segment order in the OVL.
And at the ride? (that's the loopanimations for CFR's) The Idle is the rest

DasMatze
04-03-2009, 01:55 PM
Dasmatzes Intamin wooden doesnt have any link car, does it ? :)
It does, as you can see on the pic he posted. My Old99 has also one.

insert two new bones into the model and they are linkfront and linkrear.
You also can create wheel bones, then you don't need the linkfront and rear bones.

DasMatze

Vodhin
04-03-2009, 05:17 PM
And at the ride? (that's the loopanimations for CFR's)...

CTR Creator does not yet support in-ride animations- CTRs normally don't need them since , eg: a coaster runs on the track and the track is the "loop animation" bit (Yes, I have made CTRs with loop animations, but that is only because I am testing something for Markus).

Mennoo_
04-05-2009, 10:08 AM
I don't know how must I do the animations :( I have import the 3 animations: Idle, Open and Close. and in the textfile by restraintIdle: Idle, restraintOpen: Open, restraintClose: Close.

And I have made the LinkCar
But He said thet it miss the camera's and the wheels bones
I have only made for the LinkCar the carfront, linkfront, linkrear and carrear bones

Can somebody help me?

Vodhin
04-05-2009, 12:08 PM
You put something like:


FrontCar_AnimNoRestraintOpenedIdle 1
FrontCar_AnimNoRestraintClosing 2
FrontCar_AnimNoRestraintOpening 0


where each number represents the animation sequences' order number that appears in the LOD section..

Mennoo_
04-06-2009, 01:01 PM
You put something like:



where each number represents the animation sequences' order number that appears in the LOD section..
Oke thank you. I know howm must I do tha animations now. But the link en front car are doing now really crazy :bulb:
AT first if I have the good name for the front car. The front carr will be the middle car. and now my linkcars are wrong:
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp23/Mennoo_/Shot0558.jpg
Here's a picture of the link car in sketchup:
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp23/Mennoo_/Linkcar.jpg

And the animations of the fronmt car are doing crazy either:
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp23/Mennoo_/Shot0559.jpg

Please can somebody help me

Can somebody help me please

TheSkipper
04-06-2009, 03:26 PM
You just asked.
WAIT! patience!
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