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Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 05:53 AM
Hi all,

I have taken a bit of a break from my park, after thinking about something I was wishing I had for it, so I thought I'd try my hand at making it :)

Let me make clear at this point a few things:
1)This is my first ever 3D modelling project. Any program, any game, any subject. I have never modelled before.
2)I have imported this into RCT3 in it's current form successfully as CS, but I do realise that there is a BIG difference between importing as CS and getting a working ride in the game. As a relative n00b, I am happy to learn this stuff and so far I have picked up a few things and found them fairly easy to understand, but it's just a warning that it may take a long time for me to learn and master all the required skills.

Anyway, here we are, an S&S Screamin' Swing. I haven't done that much yet, but I am finding quite a bit of time to work on this at the moment so I am making fairly good progress. I would estimate this is about 4 or 5 hours work: (Full size pic is better quality, clicky on the pic!)

http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/ScreaminSwing.jpg

So, thoughts, comments and anything else you can think of if you'd be so kind!

Thanks :)

JRCH123
05-31-2009, 06:08 AM
YES!! an S&S screaming swing!
Cant wait to see more.

Flap
05-31-2009, 08:18 AM
:confused:hope this time somebody finishes it...

DasMatze
05-31-2009, 08:27 AM
I don't know if you have ever imported anything before into RCT3 but if not you are another one of the many people who never imported anything before, not even have the right plugins to export things, but start with the most difficult of what's possible: CFR.

No offence. I just had to say that because I saw many threads with SketchUp screens of people who never had contact with the importer and/or OVLMake before.

DasMatze

philipman2000
05-31-2009, 08:30 AM
the top of the SS goes over a bit bore where the strait bit
here a compare to the the real thing
http://www.s104638357.websitehome.co.uk/photos/rush_001.jpg
you probably to make the top bit higher and make the 2 middle parts closer together because the top of the swing probably wont fit in other that that all of it's good

and i agree with damatze if you have never done this before then you probably not be good at it because cfr are so hard to make and people really think its easy but its hard to understand with importing and using blender for the animation

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 08:43 AM
2)I have imported this into RCT3 in it's current form successfully as CS, but I do realise that there is a BIG difference between importing as CS and getting a working ride in the game. As a relative n00b, I am happy to learn this stuff and so far I have picked up a few things and found them fairly easy to understand

As I said, I know it won't be easy. I just figure I may as well try it, got nothing to loose have we :) I am willing to learn and as long as time allows I will try not to give up!

Thanks to all of you for showing interest, and giving me advice :up:

RCT3Callum
05-31-2009, 08:47 AM
Best of luck with it! :D

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 08:52 AM
Adam, i think that you can finished this, and i want to wish you the best of luck, because i know this will be awesome if you finish it because i would download this ride and put it into my park.

Flap
05-31-2009, 09:16 AM
I don't know if you have ever imported anything before into RCT3 but if not you are another one of the many people who never imported anything before, not even have the right plugins to export things, but start with the most difficult of what's possible: CFR.

No offence. I just had to say that because I saw many threads with SketchUp screens of people who never had contact with the importer and/or OVLMake before.

DasMatze

i can write my own software:sour:

so that wouldnīt be too difficoult i hope

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 01:36 PM
Quick update with a pic of work started on the gondolas (BTW I realise it's waaay up off the ground atm, I made a bit of an error with the length of the poles so I think I may as well build the gondolas where they are then lower them to the correct height and extent the poles). Again, click the pic for HQ

http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/ScreaminSwingzoom.jpg

Enjoy :)

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 01:45 PM
That looks amazing, but do you know they are different screaming swings where there is 2 different gondolas with 4 seats on each arm, but i do like yours and i am very glad that you are making this one.

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the kind words :) And yes, there are 4, 8 ,16, 32 and 40 seat variants but my 'local' one, Rush at Thorpe Park is a 32 seater. Personally I think these look the nicest so I will be doing this one for now. Maybe if I do another... :P

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 01:58 PM
I am looking forward to this adam, are you going to add a platform for it and fences around the ride or are you doing this one the same at thorpe park.

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 03:09 PM
Erm do you mean platform as in the base which the ride sits on? If so I think I will do that yes, but maybe I'll release two different ones, one just the swing to allow for various different placements and surroundings, and one based on Rush including the op's cabin and correct loading arrangements and batching gates ect. TBH it wouldn't create that much extra work compared to the rest of the project so may as well.

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 03:45 PM
Yeah that is what i mean adam about the platform.

Are you planning on doing anymore CFR after you have done this one.

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 04:25 PM
I might, I suppose it depends on how this goes. If I'm successful with this then I don't see why not, I'm quite enjoying it so far. Depends also on what strikes my fancy, looking for things that haven't been done yet...

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 04:37 PM
I might, I suppose it depends on how this goes. If I'm successful with this then I don't see why not, I'm quite enjoying it so far. Depends also on what strikes my fancy, looking for things that haven't been done yet...

What about doing kiddies ride for RCT3, because they are not that many for the game, and i think that your screaming swing does look awesome, so have you done any more on it yet.

Ice~101
05-31-2009, 05:13 PM
This is the third? Yes third I believe. Maybe this one can be released.

JRCH123
05-31-2009, 05:49 PM
WOW! This has real potential, this looks like its going to be finished becuase of your dedication. (Hopefully it will) RCT3 has been missing this ride... and its about time it goes in it!

Cant wait! :) btw... you do know you have to animate it doing you?

Adam_Thorpe
05-31-2009, 06:15 PM
Kiddie rides may be possible I suppose ;)
Ice, I have seen many before and been as disappointed as anyone!
Animating, yes I know. Not gonna be easy but certainly not impossible :) Is it true this has to be done in Blender?

Thanks for all your comments :D

gavt1976
05-31-2009, 06:32 PM
You can do it in blender, sketchup or milkshake, but all that depends on what program you are going to used to do the animating.

TheChicosAStar
05-31-2009, 06:50 PM
Actually, Sketchup can NOT be used

91ad11
06-01-2009, 06:18 AM
Oh yes , Oh yes , Oh yes , :D - Rush is Coming ;) Thorpe Park Recreation Gonna Be amazing with this ;) Das Matzes Please Help him with this ;) Your Sketching and Cfr Making you make a Perfect Team and Get the Ride Done Soon :)

Flap
06-01-2009, 01:25 PM
looks good,

i hope you can import it.

Adam_Thorpe
06-01-2009, 01:28 PM
I thought Sketchup wasn't an animating possibility. Ah well, *Searches Blender Tuts*

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Update Time - 3 shots of progress 'beefing up' the seats. Have also started restraints.

http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/ScreaminSwingseatzoom1.jpg

http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/ScreaminSwingseatzoom2.jpg

http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/ScreaminSwingseatzoom3.jpg

Comments welcome as always :)

Also, would you guys rather I did frequent small updates every time I make any progress (like now) or do one or two big updates per week say? Thoughts on that too please.

Thanks :)

gavt1976
06-01-2009, 01:41 PM
I think that you could do the updates every 2 days, because then you keep this thread alive or you could do it everyday.

FOgplaya
06-01-2009, 03:33 PM
I hope you finish this becuase-

a)Nobody seems to (no offence)
b)THe model is well done and finnaly....
c)Its an awesome ride!

So good luck :D

Adam_Thorpe
06-01-2009, 04:09 PM
Thanks, and yes I love Screamin' Swings. More intense than they look, but also try shutting your eyes on one and just flying! I did for an entire cycle once, brilliant :D

Magm&MForce24/7
06-01-2009, 04:58 PM
Awesome project! I love riding Sky Hawk at Cedar Point, so i can't wait for it to be released so i can put it in my parks i make.

angryemobeaver
06-02-2009, 12:20 AM
Can't wait for this to be released! Many many people have attempted at making this and then they just disappear. Promise you won't do that! ;)

TheVirusMagnet
06-02-2009, 04:25 PM
hiii, this is awsome, im glad someone started doing this ride again, i was so looking forward to gadgets (wait, was it gadgets?) and i reallly ope you dont stop :D

btw are you doing like a foot rest thing at the bottom of the seats?

Adam_Thorpe
06-02-2009, 05:00 PM
^ Yes of course, just a question of when. That's just not my priority atm.

Thanks to everyone else for the support :D

gavt1976
06-02-2009, 07:20 PM
So how is the ride coming on adam, oh are you still working on it still.

Adam_Thorpe
06-03-2009, 02:01 AM
Yep, you might get an update tonight. It's harder now because I started this while on school holiday but I'm back now so progress will still be made, just at a slightly slower rate

sammas1324
06-03-2009, 01:48 PM
Looks brilliant can't wait for relaese

91ad11
06-03-2009, 07:05 PM
Hey Adam this CFR is coming along nicely mate , cant wait no for a update ;) You live in UK right because your picture look something simular to saw the ride , so I'm guessing your going to be making the S&S Screaming Swing , Based on Rust at Thorpe Park Either Way its gonna be amazing. Just keep this in mind , if you ever get stuck on this or any other amazing project just ask either Das Matzes , Flap or someone else who makes CFR on this forum ;)

Cant wait to put this ride into my park because im making a recreation of thorpe Park as we speak :D !

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FOgplaya
06-04-2009, 11:43 AM
, Based on Rust at Thorpe Park



Not quite :p

gavt1976
06-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Adam told me that this ride is base of Rush at thorpe park, but with some new feature on it.

sr3d
06-04-2009, 11:52 AM
Adam told me that this ride is base of Rust at thorpe park, but with some new feature on it.
Thorpe Park IS Rust.

TheVirusMagnet
06-04-2009, 12:12 PM
^
are you saying thorpe park is crap ???
im goin ther, i hope its not crap.

91ad11
06-04-2009, 01:00 PM
Sorry , i was suppose to spell ( Rush Not Rust ) :D


Any update Soon Mate on Rush Ride ;)



^^^^^ Virus Magnet Thorpe Park is amazing :D You will love it :D

Adam_Thorpe
06-04-2009, 01:37 PM
Thorpe Park IS Rust.

You beat me to it mate :haha:

Seriously, it's good, just a few things that 'enthusiasts' such as some of us, moan about.

If the importer hasn't failed me, you will have a few pics later tonight :)

Thanks for keeping the interest up and the thread going guys :)

Magm&MForce24/7
06-04-2009, 01:38 PM
Can't Wait!

FOgplaya
06-04-2009, 01:39 PM
Cool :D Will it be up 4 download soon then??

Adam_Thorpe
06-04-2009, 01:57 PM
I'm not sure soon is the right word... But eventually, yes.

Magm&MForce24/7
06-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Hopefully soon!

91ad11
06-04-2009, 07:15 PM
This is going to be the best Flat Ride :D Are you adding Great Air Pressure Tanks :D

Adam_Thorpe
06-05-2009, 02:16 AM
Sorry, I should have made clear I was talking about the CS importer :(

But anyway, yeah I will do air tanks and piping ect. but when it finally imported last night, I realized the gondolas are way too small so I need to sort that out. Tonight being the weekend you WILL get a pic to illustrate what I mean, and I'm sorry I haven't stuck to my word the last two nights guys.

gavt1976
06-05-2009, 07:37 AM
Don't worry about adam, just make sure that the update is going to be amazing when you show us it later.

Magm&MForce24/7
06-05-2009, 09:02 AM
yeah don't rush and make it look bad. ( if that's possible with your skills on doing this it seems ) We will keep this thread going! Don't worry! :)

Adam_Thorpe
06-05-2009, 01:05 PM
Well, here we are peeps, the long promised update!

This update shows that I have to admit it isn't all as smooth as it may seem, and I have managed to go quite badly wrong somewhere...

We see here a comparison with an S&S Sky Swat, and the Screamin Swing looks to be in proportion, would you agree? Maybe a tad wide?
http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/AC_Shot0090.jpg

But as we take a closer look, we see that a peep is taller that the gondolas, hmm...
http://www.atomic-album.co.uk/showPic.php/159969/AC_Shot0092.jpg

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I suppose this may explain why the frame looks too wide, which means I can take some good from this. At least I can be fairly confident that the wide look will go when I make the gondolas bigger.

Fear not though my fellow S&S fans, I shall continue undeterred! Hopefully by the end of the weekend I may have some progress to show - I guess I may as well start arms and gondolas again though so it's a fairly fluid timescale I think. I'm in Somerset (For those outside the U.K., thats about 150 Miles from me) for all of tomorrow, but Sunday will provide a decent stretch of work time with a bit of luck :)

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So to sum up:

- Size of gondolas
- Restarting arms and gondolas

+ Frame will look correct size
+ Hopefully a chance for improvement over previous efforts

And no, I'm still not giving up! :D

gavt1976
06-05-2009, 01:54 PM
You know if you go onto S&S power website you can get the spec's for this ride or just look around the web for it plus there is video that you can watch so that you can get the ride right, but i think that you know that.

91ad11
06-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Ride Look Good, Try making the 2 Polls Thicker :D which supports the Cars and Also make them Larger then it wont look bad :D and ask Gadget for some help with textures :D and making this work :D

azanderz
06-06-2009, 03:41 AM
3rd screaming swing now. Are you able to finish it this time ?

You have to reduce your polys alot by making less faces on the cylinders and corners. :)
Else it looks good.

TheVirusMagnet
06-06-2009, 03:44 AM
^^^
caan i just ask whaat exactly are polys???

azanderz
06-06-2009, 04:04 AM
^^^
caan i just ask whaat exactly are polys???


Polygons. The thing that is used to keep count on how many sides there is in a model. It shouldnt be over 500 for a low poly model but of course it can be higher for a CFR since they are hard to create. But if you have more polys you should create more LOD's.

TheVirusMagnet
06-07-2009, 07:55 AM
thank you :D

91ad11
06-09-2009, 05:15 AM
Any Updates On the Swing Adam :D

Adam_Thorpe
06-09-2009, 12:53 PM
Yeah, as it happens :) I have been doing a few bits and pieces over the last few days, as expected not had that much time as I would have liked though :( I'm currently fiddling with the arm thickness and gondola height ect. until I'm happy with that. When I reach such a stage, you shall have pics :)

gavt1976
06-09-2009, 03:07 PM
I am glad that you are still working on this one adam and i am looking forward to see your next update of it soon.

Paby
06-10-2009, 08:04 PM
brilliant, its really good to see another Sreaming swing being attempted, and what i have seen i would agree that its brilliant. The proportion is abit strange with the 'tall' people lol .. but the top arm does appear a little wide. But im not nocking lol .. just constructive critism;) lol .. please keep this one goign as im doing a thorpe park rec and everyone will know that the park isnt complete without rush lol .. so GOOD LUCK

Adam_Thorpe
06-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Does anyone have any ideas about where to get dimensions? The S&S Site gives nothing away, and its starting to annoy me... :P

TheVirusMagnet
06-12-2009, 03:07 PM
^
dun get ehat you mean bby dimentions

gavt1976
06-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Adam i have found this website for you to have a look at, and i think that you will like it. When you go onto the site have a look down the list for S&S and the ride is there for you.

http://www.rideentertainment.com/home.html

Spl Eagles
06-14-2009, 08:09 AM
This'd be good for a Cedar Point recreation as well. There's a ride like this there too

I'm downloading once it's out.

Adam_Thorpe
06-14-2009, 11:58 AM
Gavt, you are a genius! :D

Thanks ever so much, hopefully progress should be easier now :up: Also, a friend has given me the angles of each swing for entire ride cycles, so I'm ready when the time comes to animate the thing :D

gavt1976
06-14-2009, 12:10 PM
Gavt, you are a genius! :D

Thanks ever so much, hopefully progress should be easier now :up: Also, a friend has given me the angles of each swing for entire ride cycles, so I'm ready when the time comes to animate the thing :D

Your welcome mate, any information you need just let me know, and remember i want to be on your list first to do a beta test of this ride.

Adam_Thorpe
06-16-2009, 01:34 PM
Just wanting you guy's thoughts, should I continue now that Hydrawolf is doing one? May be more of a use to the community as a whole if I concentrate on CS, or another CFR or CTR car, doesn't seem much point having two different versions in production to me.

Anyway, thoughts?

gavt1976
06-16-2009, 01:45 PM
I think that you should conitune this adam, because Hydrawolf is busy doing a another ride and CS for his park and not screaming swing because he is too busy.

TheVirusMagnet
06-16-2009, 03:46 PM
hydra wolf is doing one?
il have a look at his, then give my full opinion, but i do think you sohuld continue this anyway.
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yeah def keep doing it xD

91ad11
06-16-2009, 10:10 PM
Adam , Hydra Wolf Hasn't Replied to my comment in ages so he honestly doing something else , so good luck and please continue :D

Adam_Thorpe
06-17-2009, 12:32 PM
Ok, someone posted on another forum that someone was doing one over here, I guess not. I promise I will upload some pics for you all soon!

gavt1976
06-17-2009, 12:36 PM
Ok, someone posted on another forum that someone was doing one over here, I guess not. I promise I will upload some pics for you all soon!

Yes i would like to see some pictures adam and i am glad that you are still working on this ride mate.

Hydrawolf
06-19-2009, 06:43 AM
Oh I`m not to busy.

I donīt show more pics, but the Screaming Swing is ready.
The Boad Tour (Tour des Fleurs) and the Spinning Coaster too.
coming soon at UCEP Crazy Fun.

Hydrawolf

FOgplaya
06-19-2009, 11:07 AM
Oh I`m not to busy.

I donīt show more pics, but the Screaming Swing is ready.
The Boad Tour (Tour des Fleurs) and the Spinning Coaster too.
coming soon at UCEP Crazy Fun.

Hydrawolf

Cool :D Any clues when :)

TheVirusMagnet
06-19-2009, 11:15 AM
im just exited sabvout this one xD

gavt1976
06-23-2009, 07:35 AM
So how are you getting on with this adam, any news yet on what you are doing.

Adam_Thorpe
06-23-2009, 08:00 AM
Well if Hydrawolf says his is "ready" then...

Anyway, I will continue this if y'all want me to, but I must confess that I have taken yesterday and today out of this and have started something else, the model for which is almost finished anyway, so it won't take too long to finish. I'm hoping end of the week for that, I shall start a new thread for it later today :)

gavt1976
06-23-2009, 08:17 AM
So is there much more to do one the screaming swing, because if you have seen my new park that i have posted on here i have made some space for where this ride is going, so i am looking forward to have your ride in my park.

Adam_Thorpe
06-23-2009, 08:46 AM
Model - wise, I think it's nearly finished, yes. I'm just off to post that other something I was talking about... It will also be useful to those doing Thorpe recs, and Alton Towers ones too ;)

gavt1976
06-23-2009, 06:39 PM
I think that a lot of people on here will download your ride because it does look good.

FOgplaya
06-27-2009, 05:29 AM
I'd dl both and i'd use both becuase they look differant to eachover, maby not in the same park but you know, around ;)

ricardobugsy
06-27-2009, 10:51 AM
What would be fantastic would be if you could include sound on your version.
I rode Rush last week and one of its most striking features is the tremendous noise it makes. It almost sounds as if it is alive.

Adam_Thorpe
06-27-2009, 01:26 PM
I do have friends who have access to... lots of things. I'll say no more ;) I'm away all next week, and then I'm going to finish my accelerator (Should be finished by the time I go on holiday on the 19th July) Then it's back to this! Hopefully the experience of the accelerator will help me on this project, and I shall return with new impetus :D

gavt1976
06-28-2009, 08:30 AM
I do have friends who have access to... lots of things. I'll say no more ;) I'm away all next week, and then I'm going to finish my accelerator (Should be finished by the time I go on holiday on the 19th July) Then it's back to this! Hopefully the experience of the accelerator will help me on this project, and I shall return with new impetus :D

I am looking forward to see both rides soon adam and i hope that you have a great holiday mate.

ormester
08-01-2009, 11:53 PM
i got a copy t4lifes version really good after all this screamin swing thread is generalisation of the ride and i downloaded a another version so i dont know what the mod is on about .

TheVirusMagnet
08-03-2009, 12:28 PM
^
huh?

Wayne2224
08-03-2009, 12:31 PM
I will be honest i would love to have this swing, i dont care if i have 10 of the same swings no matter what i would hope each one would have a little something different to it. I would make it and send it out for everyone to download i know i would love to have it. :)

gavt1976
08-12-2009, 08:18 AM
So when are we going to see another update of this ride because i would love to see more of it soon.

Freakywwe
08-14-2009, 10:16 PM
Wow,looks nice.Can't wait for an update and release:)

Legominifig97
12-04-2009, 03:05 PM
first person T4l second you third ?

gavt1976
02-14-2010, 08:50 AM
I am looking forward to see this ride adam because i like it a lot.